RE: MD Self-Evident MoQ Truths

From: Paul Turner (paul@turnerbc.co.uk)
Date: Tue Aug 09 2005 - 17:28:27 BST

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    Scott, DMB,

    This time I've finished writing the post before sending it! Ignore the last
    one.

    >Scott:
    >If the terms 'divided' and 'undivided' are one such pair, then why do
    >you blithely talk about "realizing the undivided reality behind those
    >conceptual pairs of opposites."? Doing so raises the undivided above
    >the divided, and that is a mistake.

    Paul: I think the apprehension of undivided DQ, the emptying out of static
    patterned divisions, is only privileged to the extent that it allows new and
    better static patterns to emerge. I don't think Pirsig thinks it is the
    ultimate goal or the terminus of Zen discipline or art or any other
    activity.

    "In [the "Gateless Gate"] analogy, as one approaches the gate, it seems to
    be a goal, but after one has passed through and looks back he sees there
    never was any gate. Translating back into the MOQ, one can say that Dynamic
    Quality is a goal from a static point of view, but is the origin of all
    things from a Dynamic understanding." [LILA'S CHILD Annotation 69]

    As such, I don't think Dynamic Quality is considered by Pirsig to be a fixed
    'centre' - although maybe it is seen as a temporary one. I think the idea
    is that Dynamic Quality, being Dynamic, is in need of continual rediscovery.
    This is in accordance with Zen Buddhism which says the path *is* the
    destination. I would say that the perception of Dynamic Quality always
    gives way to new patterns and the trick is to not think that these patterns
    are some kind of stable state of enlightenment to attach oneself to but to
    continually 'regain' the 'beginner's mind' through which all beautiful,
    astonishing and valuable things are achieved.

    Regards

    Paul

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