Re: MD Lila-24

From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Fri Aug 12 2005 - 15:48:48 BST

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    Hi Horse, and Sam, and all...

    On 12 Aug 2005 at 0:19, Horse wrote:
    > sam 8-11-05:
    > = The options for I-D behaviour are 1. limiting or 2. destroying...
    > ? I would agree that I-D behaviour is that geared to a)
    > understanding the nature of the threat, and b) if it is B-D
    > behaviour forming the threat, to support and strengthen the social
    > forms which 'incarcerate or kill' the biological patterns. OK?
    >
    > msh 08-11-05:
    > Ok. This pretty much matches my rephrasing, above.

    horse:
    How does one incarcerate a biological pattern of value? A biological
    pattern of value is only one part of the totality of patterns that
    create human life.

    msh 08-12-05:
    Yes, the way I've used "biological pattern" is confusing. My fault.
    I think it's clear from the more extended dialogue that Sam and I are
    talking about incarcerating human beings who engage in certain B-D
    behavior which, left unchecked, will be socially destructive.

    >
    > msh continued 08-10-05:
    > Now, since the biological patterns we're concerned with here are
    > human beings, and since human beings contain ideas, and it's wrong
    > for Society to destroy ideas, it's wrong for Society to kill human
    > beings when they are no immediate threat to Society. That is,
    > "killing 'em all like germs" when they are no longer an immediate
    > threat would be highly immoral behavior, according to the
    principles
    > of the Metaphysics of Quality.

    horse:
    I think in the above you're making a similar mistake to Platt in
    equating a biological pattern with a human being.

    msh 08-12-05:
    See above.

    Thanks, Horse.

    Best
    Mark Steven Heyman (msh)

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