From: ian glendinning (psybertron@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Aug 16 2005 - 06:57:45 BST
Hi Platt ... your last point was so obvious I missed it, sorry ...
The main point - is about "combining" the best of both worlds,
aesthetic and logical postivist ...
So far so good.. Clearly a central point in the MoQ space, but it
seems we have a difference in what "combining" means.
You seem to suggest having them both in your toolbox is combining
them, so that you can apply the aesthetic to "art" and the logical
postive to apply objectively in "rational debate". Each remains a
distinct component in your combination ? You still have distinct
subjective and objective view points ?
My view of combining them is as some fusion into a single tool, so
that "rational debate" benefits from more that logic. A higher
"quality" reasoning, that is neither objective nor subjective.
You might think I'm hopelessly misguided in that view, but I'd still
be interested to know that you get the point I'm making. (As you know,
I prefer to synthesise than analyse and I'm looking for something to
build on.)
Ian
On 8/16/05, Platt Holden <pholden@sc.rr.com> wrote:
> Ian:
>
> > Why should someone with four out of four role models from a very
> > specific line in the asethetic arts, be so hooked on good old
> > objective logical positivist style (dare I say SOMist) reason when it
> > comes to morals and values.
>
> I like to take the best from both worlds. You do, too.
>
> > My angle is to say it's that very style of reasoning that needs
> > tempering with a liberal sprinking of aesthetic quality. Which I have
> > to say is exactly what I thought Pirsig was doing with his MoQ, bring
> > the quality of the experience to the centre.
>
> Yes, Pirsig did a masterful job in Lila, combining the aesthetic with the
> rational.
>
> > Odd no ?
> > (Perhaps odder is that you cite Pirsig as changing your life when it
> > came to morals, yet he isn't even listed amongst your role models -
> > but that's maybe a different matter.)
>
> I presumed that by my presence here that Pirsig being one of my role
> models would be understood.
>
> Platt
>
>
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