From: jc (jcpryor@nccn.net)
Date: Thu Aug 18 2005 - 02:03:57 BST
At 4:40 PM -0600 8/14/05, david buchanan wrote:
>
>
>Now let's get to the substance of the matter. It seems to me that
>the "mystical" elements you find easy to swallow, things like
>excellence and everyday experience, are easy to assimilate because
>they CAN be understood without any reference to mysticism. And of
>course things like "being put in touch with something otherworldly"
>are hard to assimilate because they CAN'T be understood without
>reference to it.
jc
It struck me David, as I was reading your analysis, that the big
problem with this isn't the nothingness experience, it's the
immediate urge to solve the nothingness problem by attaching ALL
value to whatever static quality system it was that led you
momentarily to that mystic experience. You become a friggin'
convert. And probably lose your last hope of ever experiencing that
Quality again.
dmb also said amongst much else of fascinating interest
> See, the existence of this blind spot in Western culture IS the
>loss of mysticism.
jc agrees albeit while making a different point..
Priestcraft, always THE problem. The west defined it's mystic
experiences into one controllable institution and this was the
Christian Church. That's the only place you were allowed mystic
experience. And it had to be approved mystical experience. Usually
after you were dead.
jc snips out a whole buncha stuff he really liked...
> In this case, style is substance.
>
>Thanks,
>dmb
and applauds and agrees. Thanks dmb.
jc
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