Re: MD how conservative values support DQ and the evolution of SQ?

From: Sam Norton (elizaphanian@kohath.wanadoo.co.uk)
Date: Fri Aug 19 2005 - 13:23:18 BST

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    Hi Marsha - for once, I agree with you.

    Sam

    The New Testament can be summarised easily:
    1. Unless you love, you die.
    2. If you love, they will kill you.

    (From remarks by Herbert McCabe)

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "MarshaV" <marshalz@charter.net>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 11:13 AM
    Subject: Re: MD how conservative values support DQ and the evolution of SQ?

    >
    > Sam,
    >
    > It seems to me that both conservatism and liberalism have their fair share
    > of SQ.
    >
    > Marsha
    >
    >
    >
    > At 08:42 AM 8/19/2005 +0100, you wrote:
    >>Hi David,
    >>
    >>>
    >>>DM: that's silly abuse. OK wise guys give us your wisdom.......
    >>>
    >>>How do conservative values support DQ & the evolution of SQ?????
    >>
    >>
    >>I think Ant gave a perfect example (from Pirsig):
    >>"It does tend to reveal Dynamic Quality by blocking static intellectual
    >>patterns but you need those patterns to keep from harm. People on peyote
    >>go
    >>walking in front of oncoming cars and get killed because they think they
    >>are
    >>one with God and no harm can come to them. The static patterns that were
    >>blocked would have prevented that. In the American Indian ritual a guard
    >>who does not take peyote is posted outside the teepee to prevent anyone
    >>from
    >>wandering off by himself. They know what can happen."
    >>
    >>If you don't have the static patterns, you have degeneration and death. So
    >>you need SQ for the DQ, just as you need DQ for the SQ to evolve.
    >>
    >>So far as I understand it, 'conservatism' is pointing out the value of the
    >>SQ.
    >>
    >>Sam
    >>
    >>
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