MD "Progressive" conservative ideas (today's oxymoron)

From: Arlo J. Bensinger (ajb102@psu.edu)
Date: Mon Aug 22 2005 - 04:18:49 BST

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    [MSH had stated]
    Again, I was responding within the context of this thread, wherein I
    still say that, generally speaking, a conservative's resistance to
    change is less MOQ-healthy than a progressive's willingness to try
    things.

    [Platt responded]
    Let me know when "progressives" are willing to try:
    Cutting taxes
    Reducing the welfare system
    Cutting off affirmative action
    Removing opposition to judicial nominations
    Experimenting with school vouchers
    Fixing the social security system
    Allowing voters to decide same-sex marriages
    Eradicating tyrannies such as the Taliban and Saddam
    Supporting the Iraq's effort to establish a democracy
    Fighting the forces of radical Islam

    [Arlo jumps in]
    Hey Platt, the 1890s called, they want their "progressive" ideas back. ;-) I've
    asked them why turning back the clock is being touted as trying something
    "new", and they had no answer... you?

    Some particular questions: Didn't conservatives block liberal judicial
    nominations? Why was that okay? I'd love if you can point to something you'd
    written that lambasted conservatives for delaying "liberal" judicial
    appointees.

    You keep claiming the moral high-ground for conservatives with the eradication
    of Saddam and the Taliban, and yet you are oddly silent on Bush's close family
    and business ties with the House of Saud. Do you only favor "eradicating"
    dictators that are not in business and in bed with our president?

    What is your rationale for opposing same-sex marriages? On what basis do you
    find them immoral? More specifically, on what basis do you morally argue that a
    same-sex life partner should not have the same civil inheritance rights as a
    heterosexual life partner? Would you support a majority vote on making
    red-heads unable to marry? Why? Why not? If the majority can determine what
    sexes are allowed to marry, why not what haircolors? What's the moral
    difference?

    You argue school vouchers, but Mati has proposed two critical criteria that
    proponents of vouchers run from. Why? What is your moral opposition to these
    two requirements of vouchers?

    Arlo

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