From: Andrew Bahn (apbahn@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Aug 25 2005 - 16:17:23 BST
"Then Glenn, stand up and argue..."
Ahem...Ian,
Does this need to be said?
Glenn (and now Richard) are unsubscribed from the list. Glenn has shown he
is willing to stand in there and argue his position if given a chance.
Glenn's crime (if I remember right) was posting messages from Struan
(previously unsubscribed for offending others with his strong arguments
against the MOQ) to the list. It is all in the archives. Perhaps Horse can
remind us.
On 8/25/05, ian glendinning <psybertron@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Then Glenn, stand up and argue ...
>
> The playing on the "disabilities" (particularly in the writing of the
> paper itself)definitely created a sympathy vote that made any
> criticism of the content impossible under the circumstances. That was
> a dirty trick, even if it wasn't the effect you intended.
>
> As to whether they are wholly "debilitating" or a gift (intellectual
> or otherwise) - that is worth arguing about.
>
> Abnormal states of perception are widely recognised giving their
> "sufferers" unusual perspectives on reality and immensely valuable in
> analysing "normal" states of consciousness - Many credible
> psychologists and the like have written whole books on those topics
> (Sacks, Austin, Edelman, etc). You cannot dismiss this view with a
> pejorative quip about "3D Glasses", however bumkum your particular
> invented effects. I've actually had one (real) amblyopia sufferer come
> back to me in discussions prompted by the paper, if not about its
> content - be careful, you are playing with real people's heads.
>
> Take a bow, great stunt (even if the motives leave some of us shaking
> our heads), let's make some progress and move on.
>
> Ian
>
> On 8/25/05, Erin <macavity11@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Glenn asked me to forward this.
> >
> >
> > Glenn Bradford <gmbradford19@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:43:05 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Glenn Bradford <gmbradford19@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: my paper
> > To: macavity11@yahoo.com
> >
> > Hi Erin,
> > Richard was unsubscribed today by Horse so I would
> > appreciate it if you would post this for me.
> >
> > Sokal's response to the Fish article is better:
> > http://www.drizzle.com/~jwalsh/sokal/articles/skl2fish.html
> >
> > I don't have too much of a problem with people falling
> > for Richard's
> > three medical problems, even though they are all
> > rather unusual as are
> > the 3D glasses, to say the least. My main problem was
> > that Anthony,
> > and I'm sure others, were happy to believe Richard
> > when he said his
> > problems were actually a good thing, even though they
> > were obviously
> > debilitating. Anthony amped-up my original phrasing by
> > suggesting
> > "intellectual gift" to redescribe his problems.
> > Anthony made a couple
> > of suggestions for my paper that actually improved the
> > parody. This was
> > one of them.
> >
> > Glenn
> >
> >
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