Re: MD A Christian interpretation of the MOQ

From: Kevin Perez (juan825diego@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Sep 05 2005 - 05:19:53 BST

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    Please excuse the intrusion. But I couldn't not respond to this.

    Ant McWatt wrote in part, "[...] I've never seen any mysticism in any of the
    hundreds of Christian services or religious education lessons that I've attended
    over the last 30 years."

    I would suggest that mysticism's objective nature becomes apparent only during
    the experience of it. I believe this is the point Pirsig was making in his
    description of DeWeese's approach to anthropology. But I believe I understand
    what you mean. The Mystery seems to be absent in too many churches.

    As a child I attended a Congregational church (southern New England). After I
    became a father, my wife (a cradle Catholic), our two children and I attended
    Episcopal churches, first in Connecticut and then in Pennsylvania. It seemed
    like a fair middle ground. For the past 12 months, my wife and I (the children
    live on their own now) have been attending a Roman Catholic church. I was
    confirmed there this past Easter. So, in a sense she's back home and I've found
    a new home. I could offer a rational explanation for the many twists and turns
    in this labarynth of a spritual path. And it might even make sense. But it
    would only be a superficial truth. A much deeper truth would have to include a
    lot of seemingly irrational nonsense.

    Yesterday my wife and I returned home to Southeastern Pennsylvania from a
    two-week vacation in New Mexico. I've wanted to do this for several years. The
    desire began shortly before my father died. I simply wanted to walk the ground
    that he walked when he was a child...such nonsense.

    We flew into Albuquerque and after a few days decompressing from the rat race,
    we drove South to Silver City where we located the gravesites of my paternal
    grandparents. Last Tuesday, on what felt like a vision quest, I traveled 50
    miles North to the Gila Cliff Dwellings
    (http://home.earthlink.net/~kjp83/1.jpg). Last Wednesday, during a lunch stop
    in Las Cruces, we met a gentleman (91 years young) who reminded me of my
    father - more because of his mannerisms than his looks. The encounter
    precipitated a train of thought that began with nature vs. nurture questions and
    ended with questions about my own personality and whether its connection to
    Southern New Mexico was more than simple lineage.

    During a stop at the Gran Quivira pueblo I bought a copy of "The Land Looks
    After Us: A History of Native American Religion" by Joel W. Martin (2001, ISBN
    0195145860). The following is taken from page 137. "[...] to many Native
    people such things as eagle feathers, ceremonial masks, and human skeletons are
    not "objects" at all, but living spiritual entities." This reminds me of the
    way Catholics regard the "real presence" of Christ in the Eucharist. It may not
    be an exact comparison but it's close.

    Again, please forgive the intrusion.

    Kevin Perez

                    
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