From: -Peter (pcorteen@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Sep 09 2005 - 22:12:02 BST
Hi C.L.,
Having looked around for definitions of what 'art' and use of the word 'art'
means I'm satisfied that a deliberate 'arrangment' of some kind is always
involved. Of course that doesn't begin to answer questions about what is
'good' art; one measure of how good is a work of art might be for how long
the arrangement is preserved.
C.L., like you I can't keep up with all the posts on this discussion group;
I'm new to it and a lot of threads go over my head because I don't have a
specialist's understanding of words used in a particular context. So my
approach now is to stay on just a few threads. Also like you, I haven't
always replied to mailings to me but that was because I didn't find
something worthwhile to say.
-Peter
On 9/9/05, C.L. Everett <seaelle@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Interesting, Peter. The word "art" is like the word "love". It has
> almost no meaning out of context. Perhaps no word does. They only
> "seem" to when the user is engulfed by or swallowed up by the context.
>
> The experience of viewing art as an object is primarily a subjective
> experience until the "personal" experience meets up with or is
> "influenced by" culture or society (when it mixes with "taste" and
> "education") and then the artwork itself becomes political and/or
> "celebrity".
>
> I agree that drawing is drawing, a technical skill but I think Escher
> qualifies in the artist camp because of his ideas. Recursively.
> Transformation. Absence of inside/outside. But then I think
> conceptual artists are artists. It's not about the "pretty" or the
> aesthetic" for me--it's the idea.
>
> I haven't looked at Sickert, but I will.
>
> An aside about this list and posting. I'm having horrible trouble
> keeping track of postings. There seems to be a giant time lag between
> the time I post and the time my post makes it to the list. In the
> meantime, what feels like hundreds of responses descend upon my
> mailbox and as a consequence, I get seriously lost. So, I'm sure I'm
> missing responses to posts I've made and I feel bad. I'm not
> intentionally ignoring anyone. Anybody have a technique for tracking
> posts? Or some methodology that works for you? Or is this just one
> heck of chaotic place to hang? That's ok--I just don't want to insult
> anyone I don't mean to.
>
> --
> C.L. Everett
>
>
> On 9/6/05, -Peter <pcorteen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > M.C.Escher; a great draftsman and craftsman, producer of many
> fascinating
> > images, but I find myself a little hesitant about using the word
> 'artist'.
> > 'Art' is one of those words we use freely without having a clear idea of
> > just what it is.
> >
> > With Sickert, on the other hand, you can wonder at the apparent
> controlled
> > folly of his brushwork and imagine the feelings he may have had when he
> > painted - an expert transformer of DQ.
> >
> >
> > On 9/5/05, Case <Case@ispots.com> wrote:
> > > [Arlo]
> > > I had mentioned Magritte's "The False Mirror" as a Good representation
> of
> > > paradox being at the core of our representational system.
> > >
> > > [Case replies]
> > > I just visited an exhibit of M.C. Escher's work and was struck by how
> he
> > was
> > > consciously involved in producing art that showed the tension between
> the
> > > static and dynamic qualities of light and darkness, form and chaos,
> good
> > and
> > > evil, the organic and the inorganic. I bought a t-shirt and hung it on
> my
> > > back.
> > >
> > >
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