Re: MD DEsRIP

From: mark maxwell (laughingpines@yahoo.co.uk)
Date: Sat Sep 10 2005 - 13:18:58 BST

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    Mark M,

    Scott:
    I think that all patterns, not just fourth level
    patterns, are symbolic. I have argued for this in the
    past, but don't want to inject this debate into this
    thread.

    Mark:
    Hello and thanks Scott.
    I think i get you now. I've had problems with this
    myself and we are teatering on the edge of idealism.

    Scott:
    Intellect is the Dynamic evolving of the repertoire.
    The words "Dynamic" and "Static" apply to Intellect in
    the same way they apply to Quality.

    Scott prev:
    This is a change to the MOQ, but as I see it, only
    requires removal of the characterization of DQ as
    "preintellectual".

    Scott:
    Original thinking creates new static patterns. The MOQ
    vocabulary of
    "responding to DQ" is unnecessarily strained,
    traceable, I believe, to
    Pirsig's unfortunate reading of mysticism (which
    treats intellect as
    "covering up" some supposedly pure "preintellectual"
    experience).

    - Scott

    Mark:
    Thanks again. This gets to the root of the matter
    methinks.
    I appreciate and respect your position Scott.
    You feel Pirsig has misread mysticicm, and if he had
    read it better there would be no need for DQ?

    Mark

                    
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