From: hampday@earthlink.net
Date: Sat Sep 17 2005 - 06:56:46 BST
Hello Case, Platt, Bo, et al --
I get the feeling I'm shooting in the dark here. Everyone seems to be
holding a private dialog concerning his own pet theory, and there's no
consolidation of effort.
I want to thank Case for suggesting the wikipedia for monistic terms which,
unfortunately, didn't include any that came close to what I'm looking for.
In its listing of "ancient philosophers", only the description given for
Neoplatonism makes sense to me. This isn't surprising, since it's the basis
for most non-materialistic philosophies, including the MoQ. The term
Plotinus uses for the primary divide (or S/O split) is "emanations", which I
find inadequate for metaphysical purposes:
"Neoplatonism is Monistic. Plotinus taught that there was an ineffable
transcendant God 'The One' of which subsequent realities were emanations.
From the One emanates the Divine Mind (Nous), the Cosmic Soul (Psyche) and
the World (Cosmos)."
Meantime, C.L. and Scott are chatting about the logic of contradictory
identity, using containers and coins as analogies. Apparently the Klein
bottle, a four-dimensional shape constructed from a single surface, has no
inside. (I looked for drawings but could only find two-dimensional
representations which distinctly revealed both an inside and an outside.)
I'm also listening to Platt and Bo reach a consensus of two on their
agreement that Value is the "ground-stuff" of reality, but only "if one
finds the MoQ of value!" (I thought Quality was supposed to be the
ground -- or was it Experience? Oh, that's right, they're all the same
thing!)
I don't know who started all this, and what it has to do with "the
intelligence fallacy", but are we learning anything from it?
Before Jos left, Reinier and I were working on a hypothesis to explain the
primary source in Cusan logic, which caught his interest. Realizing that
most of you don't think we need a primary source, what with the Quality
theory and all, dare I ask the obvious? Is anyone out there interested in
following this up, or should I consider this phoenix aborted before having
had a chance to fly?
Should anyone want to resume that discussion, the basic ideas and the
thoughts that led to them are spelled out in my note to Reinier of 9/13 and
reach their peak in a response to Jos on 9/14, both under the
"Consciousness/MOQ" heading.
Sorry to intrude, and thanks,
Ham
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