From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Mon Sep 19 2005 - 16:44:01 BST
Hi Bo,
Platt previously
> > Excellent. You've answered once and for all the materialist/idealist
> > argument by showing that it's a hangover from the S/O split. That
> > duality, while certainly still useful in many respects, has seen better
> > days. Not only did the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle state
> > mathematically that ultimate reality can never be known using S/O
> > metaphysics, but Whitehead put the final nail in the S/O coffin when he
> > wrote:
Bo
> I can't but dwell a little more on this. Yes all S/Os have their
> origin in SOM. "Useful" - definitely - but this sounds as if we
> might do without them. OK, if we talk metaphysics we definitely
> can and will do without the SOM, but S/O as a static value we
> must retain which is why I harp on ZMM's original thesis of
> intellect the S/O "prism", which in the MOQ means the value of
> the S/O divide.
>
> I need not tell YOU all this, but I hope that you see that to rid the MOQ
> of accusations of subjectivism, idealism ...etc. the subject/object divide
> must find its place inside the MOQ - as a static LEVEL - the whole of it -
> and that only intellect fits. To say that SOM is some bad intellectual
> pattern to be replaced by the MOQ won't do. If so intellect becomes the
> realm of ideas or theories and what is not ideas? About this I am pretty
> confident.
Well put. The MOQ is not an intellectual pattern, S/O or otherwise. It is
the direct sense of rightness, of value, of morality, of this being
better than that -- the dynamic warp and woof of reality that weaves the
patterns of physics, biology, society and intellect which we so readily
recognize on the static, reflecting curtain of our world.
> > "The progress of science has now reached a turning point. The stable
> > foundations of physics have broken up . . . The old foundations of
> > scientific thought are becoming unintelligible. Time, space, matter,
> > material, ether, electricity, mechanism, organism, configuration,
> > structure, pattern, function, all require reinterpretation."
>
> Yes the SOM foundation has broken up, but science as an
> intellectual pursuit on Quality foundations will surely go on, no
> instruments will change settings ...etc. I also honestly think that
> the said Quality versions: Q-physics , Q-economy aren't
> necessary, science will do fine after shifting to new metaphysical
> foundations.
Yes, science and technology has done a fine job adopting to quantum
reality as the plethora of electronic devices demonstrates. Can a quantum
computer be far away? But in all endeavors, there's no escape from values
-- probing always the mysteries of the aesthetic continuum behind the
curtain of static values.
Best regards,
Platt
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