From: Case (Case@iSpots.com)
Date: Sun Sep 25 2005 - 05:09:11 BST
>> [Case]
>> Once again you fail to address the issue of our having increased not
>> decreased the incidence of terrorism. But if you look honestly at the
>> history of our country you will find much to be ashamed of. Trying to
>> wash
>> away our sins with statements about how wonderful it is not to be living
>> in
>> a tent and having cheap gas really don't cut it for some of us. I
>> actually
>> can't recall anyone saying that anyone deserves to be terrorized by us
>> our
>> anyone else for that matter.
>
> So be ashamed. Be unhappy. But I notice you're not moving to Mexico. :-)
[Case]
What is shameful is that we have never learned from our mistakes.
Have you ever heard of the Ghost Dance?
>> [Case]
>> So you DO support killing everyone who MIGHT be threatening?
>
> Depends on what you mean by MIGHT.
[Case]
I guess the point is they don't have to do very much for you to favor
killing them.
>> [Case]
>> I support having a govenment honest enough to give me the real reason we
>> are doing things. But what part of the answer offered below to the same
>> question did you have trouble with?
>[Platt}
> The administration and the rest of the Western world were being honest in
> their belief Saddam had WMD.
[Case]
Lordy, Lordy you are naive.
>> [Case]
>> So you are also in favor of killing others as long as it furthers our
>> economic interest ?
> [Platt]
> I favor protecting our economic interests when necessary.
[Case]
Is that part of the free market thing?
> [Case]
>> As for the need to huddle around a campfire, the only
>> reason we are in this situation is that for at least 30 years we have
>> ignored the fact that we were dependant on a resource that isn't our. We
>> have done nothing to reduce our dependence. It is this willful neglect
>> that
>> that puts us in dire straits today. Who do you think is responsible for
>> this?
> [Platt]
> The environmental wackos. We have plenty of oil here and in Alaska, not to
> mention coal.
[Case]
That is frighteningly out of touch with reality, dude. Especially since it
is nonsense like that that has put us in the situation we are in right now.
> [Case]
>> I also notice you contine to to dodge the issue of value. I find this
>> odd.
> [Plat]
> Be specific.
[Case]
I have said specifically several times that the economic system you favor
reduces all Value to money. And that that is the problem with it. Do you
agree with that and if not how are other Values given expression in your
system?
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