Re: MD Looking for the Primary Difference

From: Rebecca Temmer (ratemmer.lists@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Sep 28 2005 - 02:46:57 BST

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    Hey now boys..

    Mark, you answered some of the questions I had about Ham's post. I swear to
    god though, if you make me laugh like that again they're going to ban me
    from the computer lab at school...

    In all seriousness, Ham, I got lost somewhere around the "15th century". I
    just have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, maybe it's too
    complex for me (I'm a student after all and there's a lot of crap floating
    around in my head) but you're cramming too many concepts into this that I
    don't understand; I'm an Occam girl all the way. So if we could start at the
    beginning of my list of questions, for tonight I'll give you this:

    Ham said:
    "Assuming that you can accept the concept of an absolute, timeless and
    undifferentiated Source, you find yourself asking how such a source can
    bring into being a finite, dynamic and differentiated world"

    Rebecca asks:
    Why would we have to assume or accept an 'absolute, timeless and
    undifferentiated Source'? Is that a part of the MOQ (if not what does it
    have to do with it?)? Dynamic Quality, as I see it, isn't a Source for
    anything. What do you think?
    Further to that, are we talking about a 'source' being the beginning of
    Everything (like the beginning of cosmological evolution) or the 'source' as
    where things come from before they appear as static patterns (or realized
    concepts or 'existence' or whatever)?

    The way I see it (and the standard MOQ definition, I believe), DQ is what
    goes on before we turn things into patterns. I like to conceptualize this
    abstractly as a fractal that is constantly in bloom. Dynamic quality is the
    outside edge of that fractal - always becomming, always growing, always
    similar to what came before it but never exactly the same in space or time.
    Could it be that those static patterns are the 'Source' of our Dynamic
    Quality? Who knows? Not me, surely.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I just finished sitting a three hour lecture on the
    collective unconscious and Joseph Campbell... If I don't have a beer soon my
    poor brain is absolutely going to explode. You're all welcome to join me of
    course :)

    Cheers,
     Rebecca

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