Re: MD The SOL fallacy was the intelligence fallacy (was Rhetoric)

From: ian glendinning (psybertron@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Sep 28 2005 - 19:08:43 BST

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    Hi Ant,

    Whilst you're waiting for the other 19,964 words to materialise, can I
    just say ...

    However perfectly (or not) Bob has expressed what he envisioned in his
    MoQ it is quite possible (probable even) that what he originally
    envisioned could be improved upon too, without negating its
    fundamental quality.

    Ian

    On 9/28/05, Ant McWatt <antmcwatt@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    > Ian,
    >
    > Good to have you back.
    >
    > >What I don't get is why this needs to be framed as a beauty contest between
    > >two "rival" schools >of interpretation. Bo-ism vs DMB & Paul-ism. As a
    > >pragmatist with only a vague understanding of >what mysticism and
    > >metaphysics are, and as someone who is 4 or 5 years behind the learning
    > > >curve of the old-guard on MoQ, I may be one of those guilty in
    > >encouraging Bo to recycle old >interpretations, and I can see why this
    > >would be frustrating for others.
    >
    > Ian, what I'm trying to do is bring out from Bo the exact fundamental reason
    > he thinks SOM = MOQ intellect. There's nothing necessarily "wrong" in
    > seeing the world like this but I highly doubt it is the MOQ that Robert
    > Pirsig envisioned. SOLAQI seems to confuse matters not clarify them. On
    > the other hand, Paul and DMB tend to fill in the missing gaps and clarify
    > ambiguities. Again, each to their own but as someone who wants to improve
    > his understanding of Pirsig's MOQ it is the latter type of writing that I
    > find of most use and interest.
    >
    > >Trouble is I can agree with Bo (and Sam) that (pragmatically) there is
    > >something wrong with the >MoQ's Social / Intellectual distinction that has
    > >something to do with "SOMist" intellect.
    >
    > OK, what do you think is wrong with the MOQ's Social / Intellectual
    > distinction? If you can also explain what this has to do with "SOMist"
    > intellect (SOLAQI?) that would also be useful. (Answers of no less than
    > 20,000 words will only be accepted, no postcards and no conferring please!)
    >
    > Best wishes.
    >
    > Anthony
    >
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