Re: MD Red and Blue, Terrorist or Friend.

From: ian glendinning (psybertron@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Oct 13 2005 - 00:50:44 BST

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    David,

    but if Platt is a "typical American conservative" - I see it as more
    of "using" MoQ to "justify" a simple solution, already decided upon by
    "prejudice" (in the non-pejorative sense of the word) That prejudice
    is invariably Aristotelian rather than Pirsigian, whatever the
    post-rationalisation.

    Ian

    On 10/12/05, David Harding <davidharding@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
    > On 10/12/05, David Harding <davidharding@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
    >
    > >Your both right.
    > >
    > >As Blue says, we should try and understand what causes the terrorists to
    > >go and blow things up, otherwise as Pirsig says of a system of thought,
    > >".. if a factory[terrorist] is torn down but the rationality[system of
    > >thought] which produced it is left standing, then that rationality will
    > >simply produce another factory[terrorist]" but let's not go and befriend
    > >them as some seem to want to do. And this is where Reds right, a person
    > >'blowing people up' is causing biological destruction on the biological
    > >quality level and thus should be killed as ruthlessly as a doctor kills
    > >a germ.
    > >
    > >The line between these two, between calling the terrorists our best
    > >friends, and calling them our sworn enemy seems to be taking its time to
    > >converge but it will get there and that's what helps make the MOQ so
    > >great. You can look at two opposing sides of things and see how they
    > >work together to form the underlying quality of the whole thing rather
    > >than the crude dichtomatic 'I'm right, your wrong' kind of attitude.
    > >When terrorists behave like terrorists, kill them. When they don't,
    > >their problem's ours. Simple.
    > >-David.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > ian glendinning wrote:
    >
    > >Not sure who you were referring to in "you're both right" David,
    > >But I'm with you - my recurring point is - life is not all binary arguments.
    > >
    > >Partisan politicians like Platt slap the label "indecisive wishy-washy
    > >liberal" on people who think like that, unfortunately.
    > >
    > >Ian
    > >
    > Right,
    >
    > But I think it's also important to remember that with the MOQ we can
    > create simple solutions to problems. This very same simplicity which
    > attracts many American conservatives to begin with.
    >
    > -David.
    >
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