From: ian glendinning (psybertron@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Oct 15 2005 - 10:02:06 BST
Gav,
I'm sympathetic.
I too avoid any kind of partisan politics when I can - national or
international - it has little to do with truth or quality. Can't beat
doin' it yourself, taking individual responsibility as you say.
Are you paranoid ?
No more than most I'd say. The mistake is to see the mess as a
"conspiracy" in the sense of being deliberately pre-meditated against
the freedoms you hold dear. They know not what they do. (which is why
it's an epistemological problem first).
Are psychedelics the answer (to the epistemolgical problem) ?
Speaking from my position of immense experience on the subject - I put
that bit in for Platt :-) - I'd say it's absolutely certain they are
PART OF understanding the answer. One only has to read eminent
scientists Sacks, Austin and Blackmore say - (not to mention the
hippies / beat poets etc Leary, Huxley, Lennon, the Walrus et al - cos
the conservatives would just ridicule those.)
Try these two alternative views I've blogged only this week.
http://www.psybertron.org/?p=1119
http://www.psybertron.org/?p=1121
Hang in there Gav
Ian
On 10/15/05, gav <gav_gc@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> i have recently been very impressed by the quality
> contributions on this list, many of them from people
> who are new to me. this is very heartening.
> but.....
>
> excuse me for being tactless but i find it
> intellectually offensive that we are even discussing
> party politics when it is obvious that the whole thing
> is a sham, designed to placate and exploit the masses.
> if platt wants to stick his head up his arse i say
> just let him.
>
> not meaning to be alarmist, well.....i am actually:
> don't get sidetracked! disengaging from our socially
> conditioned reality (making the unconscious conscious)
> and re-engaging with the planet, gaia, the
> intelligence resident within and the source of the
> natural world...this is key.
>
> my girlfriend bel disagreed with john hume (irish
> polly who was awarded an honorary doctorate at ant's
> grad ceremony in liverpool) and to a lesser extent
> robert pirsig after ant's graduation ceremony. she
> said that more fundamental than conflicts or
> alienation between peoples is our general alienation
> from the natural world. john didn't agree but i think
> robert gave the idea more considered attention. i
> agree totally.
>
> the idea ain't new: ever read voltaire's candide?
> (ends with an exhortation to simply tend one's garden
> and not worry about politics, fame, fortune or fancy
> ladies, amongst other things).
>
> the planet is a single integrated organism. we are
> part of it. we usually 'think' (and therefore act)
> like we are not. we are ignoring an intelligence
> greater than our own and this is at our peril.
>
> how do we get in touch with this intelligence? by
> spending time in nature, by growing our own food, by
> caring for animals and most efficient of all:
> psychadelics. psilocybin containing mushrooms probably
> catalysed the evolution of human consciousness (just
> finsihed 'food of the gods' by terence mckenna:
> excellent). mushrooms are the fruiting bodies of
> fungal hyphae that form an underground network that
> connects and supports all plant life, directly, and,
> indirectly, much animal life. these mushrooms
> reconnect us to each other and the planet. this is why
> they are there. this is why cows are sacred in india!
> these mushrooms grow in cowshit!
>
> intellectual speculation is not enough. it helps but,
> as with the moq, the pinnacle, the source, DQ, is
> beyond conceptualisation. we can't comprehend the
> mystical, the mystery at the centre of existence. we
> have to experience it! if we don't then we are stuck
> with the low grade stuff. the 'good' stuff is what we
> need: the real stuff: the ego-dissolving,
> consciousness expanding experience that stabilised
> co-operative, peaceful, sophisticated societies all
> over the planet for thousands of years. pirsig
> experienced this; experienced this 'homecoming' with
> the peyote ceremony in lila.
>
> so we have yet another great example of why politics
> and anything to do with white men in suits is a waste
> of time: a distraction at best. psychadelics showed
> immense promise as therapeutic agents in the 50s and
> 60s, but now... nada
>
> mushrooms, LSD,ecstasy, any other ego-dissolving
> consciousness expanding substance (natural or not) is
> illegal because it *is* consciousness expanding and
> ego-dissolving. that is why! our 'dominator' (mckenna)
> culture relies on (usually male) egos being big and
> solid and stupid. thats why alcohol is A-okay!! cant
> get more stupid than that. that's why cocaine is
> tolerated, for the rich anyway: big ego city! and
> cigarettes? well that's just slavery in another guise
> so that's business as usual ('captive market' may be
> the technical term).
>
> it is time for us to take reponsibility for our own
> existence. no more relying on corporations and
> governments whom i suspect dont have our best
> interests at heart. hey call me paranoid.
>
> phew!
> just had to get that out.
>
>
>
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