From: Michael Hamilton (thethemichael@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Oct 18 2005 - 15:32:55 BST
Hi Platt,
Rebecca wrote:
> > But let's not lump everyone who uses psychadelics into
> > one category please. That seems to get done way way way too much. A
> > wholesale generalization about 'drug users' is not only counterproductive,
> > it's also dangerous. You need not live like a hippie to get the basic
> > message that embodied the movement - namely the challenge of authority and
> > entrenched dogmas (especially the government and church in the good ol'
> > USofA).
Platt replied:
> Sounds like when you trip out you become an atheistic liberal. :-)
Not at all. What it does do is to rid you of the static prejudices
that filter your experience, and to put you back in touch with DQ.
Atheism and liberalism, as unchallenged static prejudices, can be
challenged by a mushroom experience, just like anything else can be
challenged by it - particularly that ol' subject/object dualism.
Talking and reading about the unity of subject and object is one
thing, but experiencing it is quite another. Of course, you might be
lucky enough to get the experience regularly without psychedelics, but
few are so fortunate.
Rebecca:
> > The use of psychadelic substances enables one to see the world in a
> > different way. Sometimes this can be a good way to figure out tough
> > problems that you can't see any way around. Don't get me wrong though,
> > transcending everyday reality can be a downright terrifying experience,
> > especially if you're not ready to challenge your self - if you ever think
> > you might want to see the world in another light Platt, feel free to give
> > me a shout and I'll help you find your way :)...
> > in solidarity...
Platt:
> Using the word "solidarity" confirms my suspicion that tripping out makes
> one become "communal."
Not exactly. But it does break down your subjective isolation from
other subjects and the world at large. As a Pirsig fan, surely you
can't believe that such an experience is necessarily a bad thing?
Regards,
Mike
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