From: Erin (macavity11@yahoo.com)
Date: Sat Oct 22 2005 - 06:11:14 BST
> There are Left and Right (Big Capital Letters) that
> represent one axis in the
> political spectrum, from Marxism to Fascism. On this
> big spectrum, modern
> "conservatives" and "liberals" are both "a little
> right of center".
On the compass ...Marxism would concern the left/right
axis and Fascism would concern the up/down axis?
> You see, neither "conservatives" nor "liberals" deny
> monetary capitalism.
> "Liberals" being slightly more "left" may want to
> use some generated money for
> social causes, and "conservatives" being slightly
> more "right" want to use some
> generated money for military causes, but BOTH rely
> on a capitalist, money
> economy. True Marxism, moving "Left", is not merely
> an extreme social
> redistribution of money, it denies a money economy
> completely.
O.K. so it is not extreme left it is off the
charts...into StarTrek land??? I don't even know how
to respond to this.......
> The little online test really did not address the
> far Right and Left points on
> the spectrum, and so the divergence between modern
> "left" and "right" appears
> exaggerated. On a state map of the Northeast,
> Pennsylvania may seem "really far
> away" from parts of New Jersey, but on a map of the
> continent, "not so much".
no the west of the continent is a money economy also.
> So, my point is that on the larger Left and Right
> spectrum, "conservatives" and
> "liberals" are snug up next to each other, both a
> little right of center, with
> the liberals a little more "left", but hardly
> representing Left (big "L")
> thought.
> [Erin]
> What I wasn't agreeing with was when you wanted to
> make it out to be that you
> weren't either left or right, that independents
> transcended the right/left
> dichotomy.
>
> [Arlo]
> No again, Erin. I'm saying two things to this. (1)
> People are not "left" or
> "right", what they think about any given issue moves
> across this spectrum. The
> modern dichotomy forces people to choose "one or the
> other" on every imaginable
> issue, it boxes them in absolutist categories.
For many issues like gun control...you can categorize
it as an either for or against and you can also place
somebody on a spectrum. It just two ways to frame the
same question. No it is not only the independents
that see it as a spectrum...which is why all Democrats
are not equally liberal or Republicans equally
conservative.
Erin
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