Re: MD The SOL fallacy was the intelligence fallacy (was Rhetoric)

From: Scott Roberts (jse885@localnet.com)
Date: Mon Oct 24 2005 - 05:46:48 BST

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    David M,

    >
    >> Scott:
    >> I've got no real quarrel with the general idea here, just that it denies
    >> intellect the role that you are giving to DQ. As always, I do not
    >> understand
    >> the reluctance to refer to that which lays down "high level intellectual
    >> SQ"
    >> as intellect. We think. We are not just conduits for some divine force.
    >>
    >
    >
    > DM: I think a unique term can avoid the built up associations of the old
    > term,
    > I agree that DQ implies aspects of agency, value, intellect. I might add
    > eros, the quality of secondary qualities, etc. Sure we are individuals
    > and may be in a unique position to think something new, but are we the
    > author's of this power/capacity? Of course, being inseparable from a
    > divine power we are identical with it too. Contradictory identity?

    Scott:
    Yes. One cannot say that we are divine conduits. One cannot say we are not
    divine conduits. One cannot say we are and are not divine conduits. One
    cannot say we neither are nor are not divine conduits.

    Yes, there are other words, like eros, that one can add to the three that I
    keep talking about (value, intellect, consciousness) as all being names for
    the same (non-)thing.

    I'm not sure what your are referring to as "a unique term" versus "old
    term", nor about associations. The reason I harp on the "intellect is
    quality" business is that I think it important that certain associations
    that, for example, Pirsig holds with the term 'intellect' be broken, and new
    ones established. It also means that if we want to think about DQ and SQ and
    how they interoperate, we need only think about our own thinking.

    - Scott

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