From: mark maxwell (laughingpines@yahoo.co.uk)
Date: Tue Nov 15 2005 - 17:58:14 GMT
Dear MOQers,
There will be those who have got the measure of
Skutvik's lunacy, and those who don't quite see it and
believe he's got something of substance to say about
the MOQ, but aren't quite sure?
Well, here's the top and bottom of it:
1. Socially postulated Universal reality beyond Human
affairs - God(s) Homeric Greek society.
2. IIntellectuallypostulated Universal reality beyond
Human affairs - Truth. Post-Homeric, early
Pre-Socratic.
Please note Skutvik, that 1 and 2 existed before SOM:
"Socrates is not just expounding noble ideas in a
vacuum. He is in the middle of a war between those who
think truth is absolute and those who think truth is
relative. He is fighting that war with everything he
has. The Sophists are the enemy.
Now Plato’s hatred of the Sophists makes sense. He and
Socrates are defending the Immortal Principle of the
Cosmologists against what they consider to be the
decadence of the Sophists. Truth. Knowledge. That
which is independent of what anyone thinks about it.
The ideal that Socrates died for. The ideal that
Greece alone possesses for the first time in the
history of the world. It is still a very fragile
thing. It can disappear completely. Plato abhors and
damns the Sophists without restraint, not because they
are low and immoral people...there are obviously much
lower and more immoral people in Greece he completely
ignores. He damns them because they threaten mankind’s
first beginning grasp of the idea of truth. That’s
what it is all about." ZMM
There is no Greek God of geometry or mathematics; no
Greek God of numbers because these entities replace
Gods. In other words, they replace the Socially
postulated Universal reality beyond Human affairs with
an intellectually postulated Universal reality beyond
Human affairs: Intellect already exists flourishing
well before SOM.
Therefore, Intellect cannot ever have been a S/O
division.
Thank you,
squonkybaby
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