Re: MD Re: Quality, subjectivity and the 4th level

From: Scott Roberts (jse885@localnet.com)
Date: Tue Nov 22 2005 - 19:20:42 GMT

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    Bo,

    Bo said (to Mike):
    Scott's fallacy is that he refuses MOQ's meta-view that sees a
    4th. level emerging from the 3rd. but sees all from (in moqish)
    the 4th. and from there assumes its subjective stance, everything
    is intellect (in the mind sense) according to him, and - phew - no
    wonder there are different S/Os. There is the basic mind that
    sees the mind/matter context, then the mind that sees the mind
    that sees the mind/matter context, the .... etc. ad absurdum.

    No, Scott brings nothing to our understanding, I finally dragged
    his variety of the MOQ out of him and it appeared as SOM in the
    "Us/Not Us" form.

    Scott:
    What I say is fallacy only if one assumes that the MOQ's treatment of
    intellect is correct. I do not assume it. Nor do I assume SOM's treatment of
    intellect, but here you are saying that I do. If you see my view as being
    one of "SOM in the Us/Not Us" then you haven't understood anything I've
    said. It looks to me like you took my attempt at explicating the SOM view of
    'inside' and 'outside' as being my view. It wasn't. My view is that
    everything is intellect, but NOT in the SOM (mind)sense, and NOT in the MOQ
    (4th level static) sense.

    - Scott

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