Re: FW: RE: MD Calling all atheists

From: Matt poot (mattpoot@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Nov 22 2005 - 23:50:03 GMT

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    i ,

    Good thoughts guys.

    Platt said:Since we as much a part of nature as rocks and trees and the
    weather,
      and
    since we exhibit purpose I don't see much of leap to suggest nature is
    purposeful. I would ask, "What is the purpose of saying nature has no
    purpose?"

    Poot: I think first I should clarify what I mean as "purpose" . I want to
    stress the differences in the word, between what human minds have concocted
    as "purpose" , which I, and others seem to experience as some sort of
    intangible guildeline(maybe not the right word) set before us. There is
    also the purpose of individual events (i.e gathering food to satisfy
    hunger, or something ).

    What I mean when I say "Nature has no purpose, etc. has no purpose" is that
    when you look at things completely abstractly, detaching from associations
    of the static levels, then there is no purpose for it.

    Can you say what the ultimate purpose of the existence of anything is? to
    be purposeful, something must achieve some sort of endcome, and have some
    sort of start. As far as we know, and will ever know (never say never
    though I guess) will not be able to ascertain whether there should be, or
    ever was a starting point for the universe, for we know that It will never
    end (even if everything collapses back to a singularity , or into
    nothingness, existence still remains).

    dont have much more time, hope this helps.

    matt

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