Re: MD FW: The intellectual level and rationality

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Fri Nov 25 2005 - 00:50:55 GMT

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    Ian,

    You asked Bo:
     
    > We've already known for ages that you don't see "rationality" being
    > greater than SOMism, so do you have any conception of or any kind of
    > word for mental / intellectual considerations beyond SOM ?
    >
    > If you do, we could just use that word instead of rationality.
    > (As I've said a thousand times you simply limit the word rationality
    > to mean classical pre-MoQ intellect only. This is just a linguistic
    > problem.)

    You might want to consider a "an intellectual conception beyond SOM"
    presented by Ken Wilber as described in his latest book, "The Simple
    Feeling of Being:"

    "So tell me: Who are you?

    "You are not your thoughts, for you are aware of them. You are not your
    feelings, for you are aware of them. You are not any objects that you can
    see, for you are aware of them, too.

    "What is it in you that is always awake? Always full present? Something in
    you right now is effortlessly noticing everything that arises. What is
    that?

    "That vast infinite witnessing awareness, don't you recognize it? What is
    that Witness?

    "You are that Witness, aren't you? You are the pure Seer, pure awareness,
    the pure Spirit that impartially witnesses everything that arises, moment
    to moment. Your awareness is spacious, wide open, empty and clear, and yet
    it registers every thing that arises."

    "That very Witness is Spirit within, looking out on a world that it
    created. It sees but cannot be seen, it hears but cannot be heard; it
    knows but cannot be known. It is Spirit itself that sees with your eyes,
    speaks with your lips, hears with your ears, reaches out with your arms.
    Will you confess this simple secret and awaken from the gruesome
    nightmare?"

    So Ian, the word you may be looking for, and what Bo may be referring to,
    is the "Witness."

    Platt

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