From: mark maxwell (laughingpines@yahoo.co.uk)
Date: Fri Nov 25 2005 - 02:04:40 GMT
Skutvik:
From Quality's meta-premise the social level is
neither subjective nor objective,
Mark:
This 'meta-premise' is actually, 'Bodvar Skutvik's'
premiss.
Quality monosim cannot extole premises.
Skutvik loonybins:
it was the 4th level that brought this distinction
into existence.
Mark:
Hang on soft shit? That makes Quality the same as S/O,
which is a definition of 'undefined' Quality.
Loonybins:
From its premises all social patterns - included
emotions - are subjective while itself is objectivity.
Mark:
Quality is objectivity - another definition of
'undefined' quality.
Habitual liar:
And the 4th. level has since refined its basic pattern
to ever greater complexities, so no wonder both
subjective and objective have many meanings.
Mark:
No wonder! LOL! Skutvik tries to accomodate squonk's
thesis!
Skutvik:
From Quality's meta position
Mark:
That is to say, Skutvik's position...
Skutvik:
the perspective opens up and the 4th level becomes the
S/O distinction itself
Mark:
Well quite, It is Skutvik who is defining Quality!
Skutvik:
Please stop this S/O grading.
Mark:
Because it makes sense!
Skutvik:
As of above, seen from the 4th level REASON is a
mental faculty and just as subjective as EMOTION, but
from Quality's meta-view
Mark:
That is, 'Skutvik - the only man alive on Earth who
can see things from Quality's special point of
view'...
Skutvik:
the S/O divide is abolished as a metaphysics and
cannot be spread across the levels only be one level
Mark:
Because 'I' Skutvik say so! Alright!
Habitual liar:
All S/Os are just different 4th level patterns, some
primitive and left behind, some new and still useful.
Mark:
Is that right?
Like, Social patterns were NEVER autonomous in any
sense at all?
Skutvik:
Blar blar blar.
Sad old fart.
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