From: MarshaV (marshalz@charter.net)
Date: Mon Nov 28 2005 - 11:43:06 GMT
At 07:09 PM 11/26/2005, DMB quoted Pirsig:
>"Phaedrus remembered a line from Thoreau: "You never gain something but that
>you lose something". And now he began to see for the first time the
>unbelievable magnitude of what man, when he gained power to understand and
>rule the world in terms of dialectic truths, had lost. He had built empires
>of scientific capability to manipulate the phenomena of nature into enormous
>manifestations of his own dreams of power and wealth - but for this he had
>exhanged an empire of understanding of equal magnitude: an understanding of
>what it is to be a part of the world, and not an enemy of it." ZAMM 342
>
>"And the bones of the Sophists long ago turned to dust and what they said
>turned to dust with them and the dust was buried under the rubble of
>declining Athens through its fall and Macedonia through its decline and
>fall. Through the decline and death of ancient Rome and Byzantium and the
>Ottoman Empire and the modern states - buried so deep and with such
>ceremoniousness and such unction and such evil that only a madman centuries
>later could discover the clues needed to uncover them and see with horror
>what had been done." ZAMM 345
DMB,
It's hard to find the words, isn't it? Philosophy (Eastern &
Western) is a huge jumble of accepted SQ. Within Eastern philosophy
there is still an acceptable approach. While the words and
techniques are lost, shreds from the Ancients can be found in the
Neo-Pagan community, but that is going way out there, and may require
bread crumbs or string to find your way home.
I'm presently settling into words by Alan Watts: IT(DQ) is
everything that is and everything that isn't. And you're IT.
Marsha
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