From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Fri Mar 28 2003 - 13:16:35 GMT
Hi Johnny:
P:
> >To deny a distinction between myth and fact is to deny the ability of
> >one's mind to distinguish between a fairy and a firefly, between a finger
> >and the moon it points to, between a menu and a plate with a raison on it.
J:
> The "ability of one's mind to distinguish..." means interpret. "One's
> mind" is the interpreter. As Sam said, there are no uninterpreted facts.
> He didn't say there are no facts. Everything I know is a fact, in fact.
P:
To make a distinction between uninterpreted facts and plain facts
doesn't contribute much to understanding because one is merely
pointing out that mind and language is a part of any fact under
discussion. What Pirsig points out, however, is the existence of a pre-
conceptual reality or pure experience whereby the "fact" of the matter is
known prior to identifying it as such. Further, this unmediated,
unpremeditated, uninterpreted "fact" is a value judgment.
P:
> >Do you
> >really challenge DMB's assertion that as a matter of undeniable fact
> >"people do not come back to life after being dead for three days?"
J:
> People don't, but Jesus did, if you believe he did, anyway. Is there
> anything you believe that you don't believe?
P:
Do you not make a distinction between belief and true belief, between
myths and facts? If you don't, I hope your doctor does. :-)
Platt
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