Re: MD what is a fact?

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Sun Mar 30 2003 - 22:56:35 BST

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    Hi Sam:
     
    > Do you think there is a difference between how a fact is characterised in
    > SOM thinking, and how it is characterised in the MoQ? If so, how would you
    > describe that difference?

    In SOM, a fact is often characterized as objective. The American
    Heritage Dictionary (which Pirsig apparently uses) defines a fact as:
    "Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed." It's also
    defined as: "Something believed to be true or real."

    In the MoQ, truth and facts are characterized as high quality intellectual
    patterns of value, or if preferred, high value intellectual patterns of
    quality. In either case, a fact is characterized as subjective.

    Be that as it may, the basic difference I see is that in SOM, facts are
    usually held to be morally neutral, while in the MoQ they are always
    characterized as possessing a moral element, i.e., an intellectual
    pattern.
     
    Do you agree? Do you see a different difference?

    > I agree with you about Gospel music.
     
    I hoped you would. :-)

    Platt

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