From: Elizaphanian (elizaphanian@tiscali.co.uk)
Date: Tue Apr 29 2003 - 15:53:50 BST
Hi Phyllis
: My definition points right now in a direction of autonomy. Individual
: autonomy seems to me to be a prerequisite for experiencing and subsequently
: valuing a DQ event. If IA is not operative, then the DQ event is feared and
: rejected. Think "savage meets flashlight," or "city slicker in forest at
: night" as examples. If IA is operative, the DQ event is further analyzed to
: see if it should be at least temporarily latched.
:
: Question here though, does it then become a static intellectual pattern
: accumulated to the group of SPOQs called Lila or Sam or Phyllis or Paul?
If you're interested, you're welcome to look at an extended essay that I wrote, which argues that
the autonomous individual is the sign of level 4, as opposed to intellect. It's at:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/elizaphanian/Eudaimonic-moq.htm
Sam
"Even to have expressed a false thought boldly and clearly is already to have gained a great deal."
Wittgenstein, 1948
----- Original Message -----
From: "phyllis bergiel" <neilfl@worldnet.att.net>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: MD What is a living being?
: > Hi Paul,
: >
: > Speaking for myself, I am not only not irritated, but I am very interested
: in your take on this
: > thread, and I think you are onto something. Moreover, I think your last
: post is a model of clarity;
: > I wish there were more such. > >
: > Sam
: >
:
: > Definitely agree with Sam!
:
: This whole discussion reminds me of mind, body, self, soul discussions.
: There seems to be a "sum is more than its parts" going on. That's the
: point about cohesion I think. The brain may be just a static biological
: pattern, but when it encounters other patterns such as "government" or
: "calculus" it can do so much more than a mere static pattern labeled "human
: organ" ever could.
:
:
: Phyllis
: >
:
:
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