From: Mati Palm-Leis (mpalm@merr.com)
Date: Tue May 06 2003 - 03:22:01 BST
Platt,
I'll share my thoughts here. Though they might not be defined in the
MOQ sense, but MOQ has shaped many of current thinking patterns.
Reality:
Funny you should ask. I have thinking a lot about reality lately. One
of the "undeniable facts" I have come to is that we function from a lot
of different realities. This speaks to where Pirsig goes ahead and
defines quality as reality. The question that comes to mind is which is
the right way to understand reality? Pirsig's MOQ is a powerful way to
understand reality. Obviously more powerful than SOM this has served us
as a static pattern of reality for so long. But as I mentioned we
function in our daily lives in a lot of seamless realities or static
patterns as it were. In our singular lives or being alone we have
multiple realties from which we learn to create through our lives, which
have to do a lot to do with the various environments from which we exist
from. A common cultural term we use to define some of these realities
is "roles". These roles can transcend from the inorganic to the
intellectual. These roles themselves play an important part of the
established values of static patterns and also I believe also play a
part in the establishing the capacity for DQ.
Now:
Not to bring up a skewed point but time is critical part of reality.
Without it I would suggest that quality would collapse. Interesting
enough the past and future have strong stake in the now and also impact
the quality or reality.
Existence:
I agree with Sam when he writes
"I think there are differences but it all depends on context.
Again I would switch context with reality, quality, or values and you
get the same thing.
Find a value and you will find an existence.
"I" or self:
I think of Decartes, "I think there I am" from there we talk about a lot
of contexts.
Apprehension:
"I think of trouble and I am concerned." Again a context thing.
Quality:
Which aspect of quality or reality?
Experience:
Values or quality in action. Whether it is DQ or SQ.
Consciousness:
The ability of a living thing to be aware of it's reality.
The Tao:
Don't know much about Tao, but it seems to try to find congruencies in
the many different realities.
Platt writes, "I think they're all different words pointing to the same
indefinable phenomenon. But, I could be wrong."
I don't know if this is the case, again it is the context thing. Stating
"pointing to the indefinable phenomemon" suggests to me that we are
talking about a converging reality. I see reality being far more
divergent in nature.
Take care,
Mati
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