From: Steve Peterson (peterson.steve@verizon.net)
Date: Mon May 26 2003 - 15:12:05 BST
DMB,
> Steve:
> Also, though Wilber integrates such psychologists into his system which
> seems to make it easy to then translate into Pirsig's, Wilber does not have
> a social level. Because he looks at social and individual aspects of all
> occasions, he doesn't seem to see a social level as a stage of human
> development. His stages are most generally described as matter, body, mind,
> soul, spirit. Like Pirsig's MOQ levels, I can understand these as levels of
> awareness, but Wilber is missing a social step perhaps between body and
> mind.
>
> dmb says:
> No. I'm pretty sure you've made a mistake here. You're taking the "social"
> in Pirsig's social level to mean collective.
Steve says:
What I was suggesting is that perhaps Wilber made this mistake.
> Wilber certainly
> includes stages in which myth and ritual are the guiding lights and
> distinquishes those stages from the rational and scientific stages. I'm not
> giving you much to chew on right now because I'm already late, but I could
> make a clear case next week if you're interested.
Steve:
Looking forward to it.
Thanks,
Steve
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