From: Steve Peterson (peterson.steve@verizon.net)
Date: Mon May 26 2003 - 19:37:45 BST
Hi Sam, Wim, all
> Would you think it fair to say that anyone who 'identifies' their thinking
> with a larger group (be
> they liberal, conservative, Christian, Hindu, atheist, whatever) is
> functioning at the social
> level -
(Everyone functions at the social level as well as the biological level if
they function at all in the intellectual level.)
If a person's sense of self is not yet differentiated from the physical
world (does not see it's body as self and the pillow as not self) it is not
inorganically aware (Piaget's sensory motor level). If a person's sense of
self is not differentiated from emotions and physical sensations (e.g. the
universe is not pain itself right now, only my self is feeling pain) then
that person has not developed biological awareness. If a person's identity
is not differentiated from a social role, then this person has not yet
developed intellectual awareness (or so my child development hypothesis
goes).
If the person is "identifying their thinking with," as in your question,
then they have a sense of self that is differentiated from their thoughts.
In other words, if I think, "my thinking fits in with this group," I can
then ask, "who is this self that can categorize my thoughts?" This self is
differentiated from intellectual patterns and is thus aware of intellectual
patterns and is operating on the intellectual level in my book. (I could be
wrong. I'm still thinking my way through this.)
On the other hand, if instead of "identifying their thinking with" the
person is "identifying with their thinking," then this person is not
intellectually aware and is operating at the social level.
I'm not sure any of that makes sense. I'm sort of thinking out loud. What
do you think?
Wim, I added you to the address because I am interested to hear you thoughts
as well.
>(How does that fit with Wilber's view?)
I don't know. My problem has been seeing how a social level fits in with
Wilber's system.
Thanks,
Steve
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