RE: MD The Eudaimonic MoQ

From: David Buchanan (DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org)
Date: Sun Jun 08 2003 - 22:48:04 BST

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    Sam, Nic and all:

    dmb said to Sam:
    I guess it depends on what, exactly, the word "emotion" means to you. But in
    the normal sense of the word, they are something that adults learn to
    control and manage for higher purposes. Not that we can avoid them, we just
    learn how to better deal with them. I'm sure you know that teaching such
    control a huge part of raising children. As a adults we can sort out our
    feelings as a means of self-examination. They stay with us and guide us even
    in our mature lives, but that doesn't mean they're intellectual level
    values. It just means that intellectuals have feelings too.

    Sam replied:
    Which seems to me that you are, in a much more sophisticated way, arguing
    that emotions are impediments to cognitive functioning. Which is what I'm
    objecting to. To reassure me that you're not (if you want to) why don't you
    spell out how and why you see emotions as having a cognitive role?

    dmb says:
    I'm only saying we have to walk before we run. I'm only saying that if one
    does not have a normal emotional development, all the higher stages will
    suffer. In other words, to the extect that a person is neurotic, they'll
    have a very hard time with seemingly unrelated cognitive functions like
    logic and rationality, that such cognitve skills require a healthy emotional
    foundation. So I'm not saying that emotions interfere with intellect, per
    se. I'm saying that emotional dysfunction has effects all the way up the
    ladder.

    I've noticed an interesting set of examples by simply watching the talking
    heads on cable news shows. Once in a while you hear a full grown,
    middle-aged man whose vocal qualites remind me of a child. This is
    completely seperate from WHAT they are saying. I only refer to the actual
    acoustic characterixtics of their voice. It must have something to do with
    the actual structure and shape of their vocal chords. Sure, everybody has
    their own voice, but I'm talking about a distinctive child-like quality. And
    there is a real reason for this strange phemonenon. I've read that children
    who are incested, suffer a great loss or are otherwise traumatized will
    often stop developing in certain areas. The arrested development of the
    vocal chords is just one of the more overt manifestations of this
    retardation of growth. And its not a co-incidence that the people who
    exhibit this strange vocal quality very often hold very wacky and irrational
    views. Check it out for yourself. When you hear that strange child-like
    voice coming from a hulk of man pay close attention and tell me what you
    see.

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