Re: MD The Eudaimonic MoQ

From: SQUONKSTAIL@aol.com
Date: Mon Jun 09 2003 - 01:04:54 BST

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    dmb says:
    I'm only saying we have to walk before we run. I'm only saying that if one
    does not have a normal emotional development, all the higher stages will
    suffer. In other words, to the extect that a person is neurotic, they'll
    have a very hard time with seemingly unrelated cognitive functions like
    logic and rationality, that such cognitve skills require a healthy emotional
    foundation. So I'm not saying that emotions interfere with intellect, per
    se. I'm saying that emotional dysfunction has effects all the way up the
    ladder.

    sq: What a pile of garbage.
    Even Aristotle, in his ethics, 2000 years ago discusses child prodigy who can
    be wonderfully good at Arithmetic and yet have poor Eudaimonic potential.
    They may indeed be highly Eudaimonic, but one cannot tell until later. So, you
    have it backwards don't you? And no wonder considering your intellectual
    aesthetics.
    To take your daft thinking to its conclusion, Stephen Hawking, because he is
    physically dysfunctional (a term i seriously dislike), cannot enjoy a
    fulfilling emotional life, let alone create exciting cosmology. But Stephen Hawking
    has been fortunate to have been married twice and has a number of loving
    children.
    I simply thank heaven you have no access to authority in any capacity
    whatever, but a little sad in that you have to support your own obsessive inadequacy
    by sounding off in this forum to people who do not have sense to ignore you.
    That is to say, they should indeed listen to you if they wish to be mislead
    regarding the MoQ.

    Sam, for an individual to be Eudaimonic, all value levels harmonise in a
    DQ/SQ coherent unity. That description even manages to circumvent what you think
    is 4th or 3rd level. As it happens, Lila makes clear what the distinction is,
    and it is important. If you disagree with that, then i disagree with you, but i
    feel you would do well to attend to DQ/SQ tension.
    Aristotle argues for two states of Eudaimonia. The second state, found in Ch.
    X of his ethics is fascinating and more Platonic than the first.
    I feel you would do well to stop listening to dmb - empty vessels and all
    that?
    squonk

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