From: Elizaphanian (elizaphanian@tiscali.co.uk)
Date: Sun Jun 15 2003 - 15:44:28 BST
Hi David,
A brief comment on this:
> dmb says:
> I want to focus on this troubadour thing, but I should
> mention that this is why Pirsig DOES NOT say that intellectual persons are
> "just level 4" or just "a collection of ideas". As I understand the MOQ,
> this is metaphysically impossible. By definition, an intellectual person
> MUST also include the first three levels first. As the author puts it, we
> are each "a forrest of static patterns" and the differences between people
> are just a matter of where the center of gravity lies, which values dominate
> that person. Anyway, getting back to amor and such...
Well... it was a direct quote from Lila about "a human being is a collection of ideas". I agree
that - in principle - the MoQ would say that a person is all the levels in harmonious combination, I
just think there is a tension between that and what Pirsig says in other places. It's one of the
tensions that I think my thesis resolves.
Sam
"Phaedrus is fascinated too by the description of the motive of 'duty toward self' which is an
almost exact translation of the Sanskrit word 'dharma', sometimes described as the 'one' of the
Hindus. Can the 'dharma' of the Hindus and the 'virtue' of the Ancient Greeks be identical?" - The
Eudaimonic MoQ says yes. "Lightning hits!"
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