From: David Buchanan (DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org)
Date: Sun Jun 15 2003 - 19:20:10 BST
[Squank said:
sq: More absolute garbage from the 'garbage supremo' Dave 'DuMB' Buchanan.
Does anyone take this asshole seriously?
Language, which is the manipulation of symbols, is more than 3,000 years
old. Therefore, the intellectual level is far older by a very long score
than 3,000 years. How a statement like this can be dropped without any sense
of irony is staggering.
DuMB's arrogance is startlingly ludicrous, and only surpassed by his
inability to deliver one original insigh
dmb says:
I think I see the theory you're operating with here. You'd rather be hated
than ignored, right? Nagative attention is better than nothing, huh? You
figure that if you can't raise my interest with thoughts and questions about
the MOQ, that the second best thing would to evoke some kind of response by
throwing out scatological insults. Sorry to disappoint you, but I find your
attempts at abuse to be just as boring, vague and incoherent as the rest of
your posts. Yawn!
Yes, obviously, language is more than three thousand years old. Squawnk's
mistake is the assumption that intellectual values are required in order to
speak a language. This just isn't so. Language first emerged as part of the
social level, along with her cousins myth and ritual.
PIRSIG from chapter 30
"Philosophers usually present their ideas as sprung from "nature" or
sometimes from"God", but Phadreus thought neither of these was completely
accurate. The logical order of things which the philosophers study is
derived from the "mythos".The mythos is the social culture and the rhetoric
which the culture must invent before philosophy becomes possible. Most of
this religious talk is nonsense, of course, but nonsense or not, it is the
PARENT of our modern scientific talk. This "mythos over logos" thesis agreed
with the MOQ's assertion that intellectual static patterns of quality are
built up out of social static quality. Digging back into ancient Greek
history, to the time when this mythos-to logos transition was taking
place...."
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