Re: MD The Transformation of Love

From: Trivik (trivik@stwing.upenn.edu)
Date: Tue Jun 24 2003 - 15:11:46 BST

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    > Transcends selfishness? I think not.

    > we may be seen as purely social level creatures...But that view can lead
    > to all sorts of bad things, like Communism for starters.

    > "...a lower form of evolution is being used to destroy a higher form.
    > That is evil." Note 140-Lila's child

    it often happens that a higher level helps out a lower level - eg, doctors
    help out the biological level, lawyers help out the social lever etc.
    the other way round also happens as often. eg being attracted to women
    with long legs helps the intelectual level (statistically, admitedly a
    week stat, such women have higher IQ's), being attracted to people within
    your comunitys idea of beauty helps the social level, etc. granting that
    the int. level is purely personal, i do not see any argument against the
    two claims you make above.
    1. love cannot trancend selfishness - untrue. most people fall in love
    with people that are smarter than themselves. they will act absolutelly
    unselfishly, and beleive they are acting unselfishly. if this were not
    biological but intelectual, its truth would be suspect and the chances of
    the loved person houmoring the other reduces. so this props up the int
    level.

    2. comunism - well how can you say that a society shaped using only the
    first three levels and excluding the fourth (such as the one we have
    today) could be better than one which includes the fourth.

    [note the difference between one level maintaing the paters of
    another(like the lawyer), versis one shapeing another (like genetic eng)]

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