Re: MD S/O-intellect or thinking-intellect?

From: Scott R (jse885@spinn.net)
Date: Sun Jul 13 2003 - 19:55:20 BST

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    Squonk,

    sq: Rational thought is derived from symbolic manipulation of symbols. Its a particular method, not intellect itself. Being a method it is art. You don't need subjects and objects to do maths or geometry and Scott asserts this, as does Mr, Pirsig. You're not doing very well are you? Maybe its time for that essay of yours.

    I did not assert this. What I said was:

    "However, there was no mathematics in this sense until the Greeks, and the
    S/O divide. Earlier mathematics, like that of the Egyptians, amounted to
    rules of thumb for doing other things. There was no "thinking about" right
    angles in themselves, just using the 3-4-5 rule to mark a right angle."

    and this:

    "I also have said that mathematics, while itself not S/O thinking, comes after S/O thinking. One doesn't have the detachment, or mental space, beforehand to do mathematics (by which I mean proving theorems and suchlike, not just measuring and counting)."

    So clearly I am saying that mathematics depends on the S/O divide, though, in a weak sense, it also transcends it.

    - Scott

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