From: Ian Glendinning (ian@psybertron.org)
Date: Sat Aug 16 2003 - 22:48:54 BST
Steve
I believe evolution is the best model of any kind of reality.
MOQ layers are a good summary of just such a reality IMHO - stable layers
building dynamically on layers over many generations.
I see no conflict or paradox between MOQ and Darwin.
Ian Glendinning
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From: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk
[mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk]On Behalf Of Steve Peterson
Sent: 13 August 2003 17:22
To: moq_discuss@moq.org
Subject: MD Rorty
Hi Matt, Platt,
I've started reading "Philosophy and Social Hope" due in large part to your
championing of Rorty.
Could you comment on the relationship of pragmatism and Darwinism.
Rorty (p xxii) said that pragmatists "..start with a Darwinian account of
human beings as animals doing their best to cope with the environment...
Words are among the tools that these clever animals have developed."
He also used the phrase "to become fully Darwinian in our thinking" as if it
was a good thing to do. What does he mean?
Does he see Darwinism as an intellectual postulate that helps us cope with
our environment? If so, I'll take the MOQ over Darwinism any day. How
about you?
Based on what I've read so far, there is much evidence that Rorty is not the
Communist that Platt seems to think he is and is rather a liberal Democrat.
Rorty said on page 4, "I think that our country -- despite its past and
present atrocities and vices, and despite its continuing eagerness to elect
fools and knaves to high office -- is a good example of the best kind of
society so far invented." I agree.
Platt, does this describe your hostility toward Rorty? "The right's
hostility [toward Rorty/pragmatism] is largely explained by the fact that
rightest thinkers don't think it is enough just to prefer democratic
societies. One has to believe that they are Objectively Good, that the
institutions of such societies are grounded in Rational First Principles."
Thanks,
Steve
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