RE: MD MoQ platypuses

From: Paul Turner (paulj.turner@ntlworld.com)
Date: Thu Aug 28 2003 - 23:04:28 BST

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    Hi Matt

    Matt:
    I think I've always been pretty upfront about my intentions with Pirsig.
    Usually there are indicator words I use that help spell out whether I'm
    reconstructing Pirsig's intentions or spelling out my own, whether I'm
    doing biography or philosophy.

    Paul:
    Agreed, I've just said as much in another post.

    Matt previously said:
    ...a reading that weeds out all of the bad, Kantian philosophy and
    leaves the good, pragmatist philosophy.

    Paul previously said:
    Hey everyone, for an illustration of a common pragmatist accusation,
    this is a classic case of "begging-the-question".

    Matt:
    Well, the accusation isn't really common to pragmatists, just
    philosophers who are talking past each other. Its common to me because
    I'm often trying to mark out the metaphilosophical ground. And that
    wasn't begging the question, that was making a judgment (unless you
    think all judgments are question begging).

    Paul:
    No, I don't think all judgements are question begging. I thought the
    initial question was: "Is there merit in using the term "Quality" to
    point to something beyond words?"

    To which you said something like: "well Pirsig doesn't use it in that
    way."

    I said: "actually, he does"

    You said something like: "But I ignore those bits because I don't think
    they have merit"

    I guess I misunderstood your discussion. That'll teach me.

    Paul

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