From: Wim Nusselder (wim.nusselder@antenna.nl)
Date: Tue Sep 02 2003 - 11:03:34 BST
Dear Platt,
In reply to your 29 Aug 2003 10:11:08 -0400 e-mail:
We agree that there were not human concepts around when amoebas appeared in
evolution and that the MoQian explanation of evolution is better than
'scientific Oopsism'.
Do you equate DQ to 'a "life force" including "concepts" and a "purpose" in
Pirsig's 'All life is a migration of static patterns of quality toward
Dynamic Quality'? ('Lila' ch. 11) I agree as long as 'life force' and
'concepts' and 'purpose' are not anthropomorphized.
I wrote that I appreciate 'emotion' and 'intuition' 'as valuable (but
largely unconscious) HUMAN abilities'. (emphasis added).
You replied:
'I also appreciate emotion and intuition, but also appreciate my expanded
consciousness which allows me to control my emotions and check my intuitions
against further experiences. Having these abilities is "better" than not
having them. If we didn't, there would be little to distinguish us from the
inhabitants of the biological level.'
Do you consider HUMAN emotion and intuition indistinguishable from ANIMAL
emotion and intuition? Do you consider expansion of consciousness the
essential element of evolution at the 4th level?
I agree for evolution at the 4th level up till the rational level, but I
think humanity can and does go beyond.
You wrote:
'Instincts and habits are great time and energy savers. Nevertheless, they
do serve purposes.'
Whose purposes? Pre- or post-behavior purposes?
I'd say: none of such -anthropomorphized- purposes are necessary. Only DQ is
(for which the question 'whose purpose?' can't be answered).
With friendly greetings,
Wim
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