From: MATTHEW PAUL KUNDERT (mpkundert@students.wisc.edu)
Date: Tue Sep 09 2003 - 22:15:17 BST
Paul,
Bo said:
According to the MOQ all levels start(ed) as a pattern of the parent level.
Paul said:
Is this what Pirsig said? Does he really mean that a pattern of values in one level "moves up" to a new level?
Matt:
I think I agree with you when you bring up point (c), "It doesn't fit with the statement that levels are not continuous." Pirsig says explicitly that the levels are discrete and I would take that to mean that the leap from level to level is just that: a leap, not a muddled shuffle.
Side note: that was me doing biography. As explicit as Pirsig is, I have also been pretty explicit in criticizing Pirsig's idea of the levels as being discrete. Its probably pretty safe to say that pragmatists think everything is a muddled shuffle.
Paul said:
Bo, I'm not trying to prove you wrong
Matt:
If Bo is doing biography, then yes you are and I say more power to you. Biography is the one area we can have good, ole' fashioned arguments where I doubt the phrase "you're begging the question" will ever come up.
If Bo is doing philosophy rather than biography, then yeah, you aren't trying to prove him wrong. You are just trying to pin down his interpretational strategy.
Matt
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