MD Evolution of levels

From: Paul Turner (paulj.turner@ntlworld.com)
Date: Fri Sep 05 2003 - 12:03:17 BST

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    I'm trying to pin down some widely held assumptions about the MOQ that
    I'm not clear on, starting with this one.

    Bo said:
    "According to the MOQ all levels start(ed) as a pattern of the parent
    level."

    Is this what Pirsig said? Does he really mean that a pattern of values
    in one level "moves up" to a new level?

    The reason I ask is that:

    a) I don't see the necessity to make that assertion - why couldn't a new
    level be said to be created by the first pattern that fits the
    definition of that level?
     
    b) it can't be based on observation

    c) It doesn't fit with the statement that levels are not continuous

    d) a pattern of values is a pattern, not a thing, so it's not that a
    thing starts doing something else so much as a new pattern creates a
    different thing. That is, when a pattern changes, it is no longer the
    old pattern in any sense

    Bo, I'm not trying to prove you wrong, like I said, it's a widely held
    assumption so it must come from somewhere. Is there a statement anyone
    can quote which explicitly says that a pattern of values moves up a
    level? The quote Bo gave just says that each level's purpose is to
    preserve the level below, not that it was part of the level below. Is it
    just inferred from such quotes?

    Bo cited:
    "Therefore, to the question, "What is the purpose of all this
    intellectual knowledge?" the Metaphysics of Quality answers, "The
    fundamental purpose of knowledge is to Dynamically improve and preserve
    society. "Knowledge has grown away from this historic purpose and become
    an end in itself just as society has grown away from its original
    purpose of preserving physical human beings and become an end in itself,
    and this growing away from original purposes toward greater Quality is a
    moral growth."

    Cheers

    Paul
      

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