Re: MD Illusions--Richard Bach's creatures

From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Sat Sep 13 2003 - 20:11:24 BST

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    Platt

    I think I understand your point about morals.
    However, I think it is plausible to characterise
    quality as something watery and in motion.
    Quality/experience despite Plato's and the SOM's
    atttempt to dismiss it as mere appearance and to
    seek something firmer and fixed as behind it.
    Whilst I agree that we 'encounter' quality as necessarily
    having value for us -if we are to 'encounter' it at all, it
    is perhaps our 'first experience' that we find it overwhelming/
    threatening to wipe our fragile existence away. It is this
    'first experience' that I think accounts for patriarchal
    religion and the seeking after allegiance with whatever power
    has thrown us into this situation.

    Regards
    David Morey

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Platt Holden" <pholden@sc.rr.com>
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    Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 1:57 PM
    Subject: Re: MD Illusions--Richard Bach's creatures

    > Hi Andy,
    >
    > Your "swimming in the stream" metaphor and explanation says nothing
    > about morals. So to claim it's a metaphor for the MOQ is a stretch to
    > say the least. The MOQ is all about morals. Your conclusion seemed to
    > be that it's better not to cling to one set of beliefs, a conclusion I
    > presume we shouldn't cling to either. But I didn't see any rationale
    > to support that conclusion.
    >
    > The MOQ states as an axiom that some things are better than others,
    > then proceeds to answer what, where, when, how and why that axiom
    > creates the world. A good metaphor of the MOQ would do the same, or at
    > the least suggest that the MOQ is about morality, not about "letting go
    > of society."
    >
    > Anyway, I liked Richard Bach's "Jonathan Livingston Seagull" metaphor
    > better. I'd rather fly with the angels than bump along the bottom of a
    > stream. :-)
    >
    > Platt
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