From: abahn@comcast.net
Date: Sun Sep 14 2003 - 04:46:15 BST
Hi Yale,
You said:
"...deep and unsatisfiable courageous thinkers like you -- and the relatively
few seekers like you and me and I dare say Patrick, who have less than the
average need to cling to what we currently believe, and a more than average
desire to not hold for too long any successor beliefs we may wish to play with
for a while."
Andy:
Although I don't like to throw accolades at myself at the expense of anyone,I'll
drink to above.
Regards,
Andy
> Andy, more and more I see that I was grossly mistaken about my opinion of
> you and your quality of exploration. So I greatly aologize in public here
> for my misguided and totally wrong, flip remarks to you.
>
> Needless to say I completely agree with what you are saying below. And
> while you are not inclined to do so, please note that I wrote my Fractal
> Philosophy paper about things like "the softest of software" and an
> underlying ethos inherent in at least some categories of changes only for
> deep and unsatisfiable courageous thinkers like you -- and the relatively
> few seekers like you and me and I dare say Patrick, who have less than the
> average need to cling to what we currently believe, and a more than average
> desire to not hold for too long any successor beliefs we may wish to play
> with for a while.
>
> Regards., Yale
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <abahn@comcast.net>
> To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:45 AM
> Subject: Re: MD Illusions--Richard Bach's creatures
>
>
> > Hi Platt,
> >
> > Yes, I have witnessed your interpretation of the MOQ being all about
> morals on
> > this site for some time now. I appreciate your perspective Platt, but I
> don't
> > agree with it. Although, I think morals are important to the MOQ, I don't
> think
> > they were intended by Pirsig to be fixed and absolute. At least, I don't
> want
> > to read Pirsig this way.
> >
> > I also liked "Jonathan Livingston Seagull" by Bach and I agree this would
> make a
> > nice metaphor for the MOQ. I remember JLS, the protagonist, straying off
> from
> > the rest of the gulls, society, in order to discover his calling. The
> rest of
> > the gulls were gathered around landfills and beaches, feeding for scraps
> and
> > trash wherever they could find it. All the while JLS was off by himself,
> all
> > alone, practicing flight maneuvers while neglecting his biological and
> societal
> > needs. This journey JLS took is very analogous to being bounced along the
> > rocks, alone, away from society. :-)
> >
> > Thanks for your thoughts
> > Andy
> > > Hi Andy,
> > >
> > > Your "swimming in the stream" metaphor and explanation says nothing
> > > about morals. So to claim it's a metaphor for the MOQ is a stretch to
> > > say the least. The MOQ is all about morals. Your conclusion seemed to
> > > be that it's better not to cling to one set of beliefs, a conclusion I
> > > presume we shouldn't cling to either. But I didn't see any rationale
> > > to support that conclusion.
> > >
> > > The MOQ states as an axiom that some things are better than others,
> > > then proceeds to answer what, where, when, how and why that axiom
> > > creates the world. A good metaphor of the MOQ would do the same, or at
> > > the least suggest that the MOQ is about morality, not about "letting go
> > > of society."
> > >
> > > Anyway, I liked Richard Bach's "Jonathan Livingston Seagull" metaphor
> > > better. I'd rather fly with the angels than bump along the bottom of a
> > > stream. :-)
> > >
> > > Platt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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