Re: MD Where things end.

From: Yale Landsberg (yale_landsberg@yalelands.com)
Date: Sun Sep 14 2003 - 13:17:51 BST

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    Sam,

    Per your previous <<I agree with Wittgenstein that metaphysics is a form of
    magic> may I mention that per my http://yalelands.com/frph.pdf "Fractal
    Philosophy" paper, "The magic of magic is that there is no magic. Thus and
    therefore, all is magic." BTW, as the subject of this thread is "where
    things end" I'll also end with the fact the my paper also gives some
    suggestions as to why we hope and (if we are religious pray) that problem
    situations will "end upright" -- I mean, "end up right." (If you to
    converse with me off-list, please do.)

    Max pax, YL

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Sam Norton" <elizaphanian@tiscali.co.uk>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 12:33 AM
    Subject: Re: MD Where things end.

    > Hi DMB,
    >
    > I think your concerns here say more about your own social hang ups than
    anything else. I've never
    > made a secret of what I do - it's even on my bio on the website! (Where's
    yours? What's your social
    > level quality? And if you don't think it's relevant - why is mine?)
    >
    > More to the point, I haven't often said 'I'm right because I'm ordained'.
    The times when I'm tempted
    > to do that are when the discussions focus on what Christianity is -
    because there I do think I have
    > a qualified perspective, and I think there is an awful lot of ignorant
    prejudice being put about by
    > people who ought to know better. But those arguments were principally with
    you, so there's no need
    > to go back to that. I'm quite happy to let all my other arguments (eg
    eudaimonia) stand or fall on
    > their own merits, as more or less good philosophy. I'm not appealing to
    any outside authority - at
    > least no more than you.
    >
    > Cheers
    > Sam
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "David Buchanan" <DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org>
    > To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 12:52 AM
    > Subject: RE: MD Where things end.
    >
    >
    > > David Morey said:
    > > I am aware of this. Never had anything to do with
    > > organised religion in my life. However, I think that much
    > > of the sentiment that religion expresses is the sort
    > > of sentiment I experience. I have always felt that the
    > > life-world we have ended up with after religion and science
    > > is something completely mis-conceived. I hope there is
    > > something beyond both that would capture the best
    > > elements of both. I generally experience my life as
    > > living in a society full of people going round staring at
    > > the ground and thinking that is all there is. If they looked
    > > up they would find the world much more amazing and
    > > impossible to understand in terms of the limited view
    > > they have been confining themselves to. Most of the people
    > > at MOQ are doing a bit better than average, thankfully.
    > > At least they have read a few books.
    > >
    > > dmb says:
    > > Huh? How is this relevant, or even remotely related, to what I said? I'm
    > > glad you feel comfortable enough to share your feelings about religious
    > > sentiment and the poor lost souls of the world (unlike you), but my
    point
    > > was about ideological committments and their effects on discussion.
    > >
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