From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Sep 20 2003 - 22:31:47 BST
Hi Matt, DMB
> Matt said:
> The same goes for war. I agree with Michael Walzer that there are just
> and unjust wars. I'm no hawk, but neither am I an ignorant pacifist who
> thinks that entering into WW II was unjustifiable. I don't care if we
> went into WW II to help the Jews or not. I don't care if their genocide
> was the direct, or even indirect, cause of our entrance. The fact is,
> we did go into WW II and we did save a lot of Jews. That, I think, is
> reason enough, if even retrospectively, to view WW II as a justifiable
> war. Sometimes, on rarer and rarer occasions, military action can be
> justified.
I take it then that you consider our intervention in Iraq as justified
on the basis of saving a lot of lives? Or are Iraq lives less worthy
than Jews?
> dmb says:
> Pardon me for butting in with a tanget, but I just want to point out
> that the USA was attacked by the Japanese at Pearl Harbor and Germany
> declared war on the USA a few days later. Entering WW2 was hardly a
> matter of choice, so let's not pretend we did it for moral reasons. The
> fact is that millions of right-wing Americans were very sympathetic to
> Hitler's cause. Not that anyone here has said otherwise, but it still
> seems worth pointing this out. Thanks.
Now that you've brought it up, it's worth pointing out that millions of
left-wing Americans were very sympathetic to Stalin's cause which
killed many more innocent people than the Nazis -- 62 million vs 21
million. Counting the Chinese Communists, the death toll attributable
to left-wingers comes to 97 million.
Platt
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