From: Sam Norton (elizaphanian@tiscali.co.uk)
Date: Mon Sep 29 2003 - 17:31:53 BST
Hi Bo,
This is a brief response, I'll try and incorporate a more substantial response in the paper on
'thinking' that I'm working on at the moment.
You originally said: " The intellectual level means THINKING, but it also means that the S/O split
was the
necessary outcome from the (false yet compelling) impression that thinking takes place on another
level of reality than verbal language."
And you later said:
> The proposed "solution" does not unanimously support the SOLAQI
> but fuses all. So I would have liked to know how you see the
> language-mind (voices-thoughts) transition. If it is viable I need longer
> harp on it.
...
> It would have liked if you evaluated that of language turning outside-
> in. Pirsig says it's the easiest thing in the world to interchange the two,
> and he also says that this matches his idea of intellect. In other words:
> Social communicative language grew into independent thoughts (and
> the illusion of these being incompatible created the SOM). But - and
> this is important - the intellectual level frantically tries to hide its track
> and claims to be solely "thinking".
I'm not sure I'm totally clear on what you are claiming here. Are you saying that thinking is
internalised language (and the process of 'internalisation' produces the s/o divide)? If so, I have
a little sympathy with that. However, I would want to emphasise the foundationally social aspect of
language, and ensure that it is given due weight. Certainly, "language did not emerge from some kind
of ratiocination" as Wittgenstein put it.
So could you be a bit more explicit about what you think the "language-mind (voices-thoughts)
transition" is. It's something I have a little background knowledge on (eg through Wittgenstein's
'private language' argument - one of the reasons why language must be social, ie public, but that's
another story).
Sam
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