Re: MD The final solution or new frustration.

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Wed Oct 01 2003 - 20:42:00 BST

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    Hi David M,

    > You talk about experiencing art as dynamic quality
    > that is not thinking, but what about creating art?
    > Static intellectual patterns are created, during the
    > process of creation surely DQ comes in, it seems
    > to me strange to say that this DQ aspect of creativity
    > has nothing to do with thinking, that you write a sentence
    > and start to think only when you read it back. Is this what
    > you are saying.

    Writing sentences is a static pattern. You have to learn how to do it.
    You don't need to learn anything to respond to DQ. It comes naturally.
    Often, the more someone is "educated," the less he responds to DQ. All
    those static patterns he has invested so much time to learn and thus
    hold in high esteem get in the way.

    > Can't see why an event/activity is not simply
    > connected to both SQ and DQ at the same time. The split
    > seems very like wave-particle duality to me. The moving
    > unpredictable wave is DQ, the determinable/quantifiable
    > event is always after the event -this is SQ.

    You said it. DQ comes first, SQ is "always after the event."

    > As I put it
    > in my novel Be(com)ing/quality is always imminent (sic).
    > It has always just passed/past and is never present.

    DQ is always the present.

    > Being or static patterns is a sort of presence of the past,
    > or what has already occurred, only what has occurred is
    > determined and has lost DQ.

    Yes, static patterns (SQ) occur in the wake of DQ.
     
    >I think your dogma of SQ/DQ
    > split does not work in the form you seem to be suggesting.

     "Work" according to what assumptions? I take you assume that writing
    is an act of DQ. I disagree and have explained why.

    In another post you suggested "difficulty," and "fuller complexity" and
    "intelligence" is somehow related to one's DQ response. I doubt if
    there's a correlation. You must put great store in education, even
    though some of our greatest artists were drop outs and others bordered
    on insanity. :-)

    Platt

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