Re: MD Joseph Cambell

From: james marshall (edgarj@shaw.ca)
Date: Mon Oct 06 2003 - 04:44:35 BST

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     DMB said:

    "He (Campbell) makes it apparent how necessary it is for each of us to take
    the hero's
    journey, to walk a spirtual path even in this scientific culture."

    All these people on "journeys and paths" - few it seem are contented with
    here and now" which afterall, is all a man ever has. A man who follows a
    path is seeking something other than reality which is always here and now.
    Deal with the now. Deal with what is. Spiritual paths are avoidances! A
    spiritual path is an "away from" which is fear. There is nothing wrong with
    now.
     
    A man who is seeking something "better than" here and now never looks me in
    the eye. His eye and attention are beyond this time and place where he
    encounters me who is him. A man following a "spiritual path" therefore
    hateful of me and himself. I discern nothing heroic in that.

    Jim
     
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    From: moq_discuss@moq.org
    Date: October 5, 2003 1:09:49 PM
    To: 'moq_discuss@moq.org'
    Subject: MD Joseph Cambell
     
    Sam and y'all:
     
    Sam said:
    ....I've just picked up a copy of "hero with a thousand faces", which I read
    many years ago, but am looking forward to getting acquainted with again.
     
    dmb says:
    I don't want to spoil it for you, but they all die in the end. Fortunately,
    you're a Christian and so you already know that the hero is also
    resurrected. :-)
    But seriously, I'm happy to learn that you take Campbell seriously and
    impressed that you're willing to entertain his thesis. I'm sure that you
    already know that it gives no preferential treatment to Christianity. He
    merely gives it the importance that it deserves, which is quite bit. I think
    you'll agree that paints Christ as THEE central hero of Western
    civilization, an observation that seems pretty much irrefutable to me. The
    book also provides a kind of KEY to the structure of drama and our own
    psychology, our own spiritual growth, and is otherwise full of wonders.
     
    And for MOQ purposes (Pirsig actually recommends Campbell's four-volume
    tome, THE MASKS OF GOD, but HERO is where it all began.) it shows what our
    mythos is all about, the unseen ways that it shapes and guides us. I don't
    mean to suggest that he reduces religious to mere psychology, its more like
    he steals it back from the literalists and reveals it's original meaning. He
    makes it apparent how necessary it is for each of us to take the hero's
    journey, to walk a spirtual path even in this scientific culture. I've said
    too much already,...
     
    Thanks,
    dmb
     
     
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